through veterans day $5 goes to folds of honor. think about it. >> if you have to run from the tv, run to the radio. >> bye. >> bill: good morning, everybody. a high profile witness called to testify but will john bolton be there as democrats take the probe public opening hearings starting next week. i'm bill hemmer live in new york city. packed show for you, three hours straight ahead. >> sandra: made it to thursday. good morning. i'm sandra smith. former national security advisor john bolton scheduled to testify this hour. no one knows yet if he will show as we learn the whistleblower's attorney may have had a clear bias himself pushing for a coup and impeachment of the president in 2017. >> bill: both sides hammering out their strategy before next week's public hearings. >> the testimony we're hearing

today is actually getting easier to defend the president from a standpoint there is no linkage. >> i think you'll see throughout the course of their testimony and many others most important facts are largely not contested. >> the facts have never changed. they will never change. those facts are consistent. those facts are clear. >> if this was so routine and ordinary to have a quid pro quo in terms of our giving money to a country to defend itself why did they hide it and have to put it in a secret server after it was disclosed? >> i'm not going the read these transcripts. the whole process is a joke. the whole idea there is a quid pro quo based on somebody changing their testimony. they all hate this guy. you want to get him impeached. >> sandra: we're up on the hill to kick things off. >> a lot of moving pieces. we're standing by outside the intelligence committee's doors right now waiting to see if john bolton shows up.

so far bolton's attorney hasn't said anything specific about today, sandra. he did say very recently bolton did not plan to appear voluntarily unless he was subpoenaed. good news for the intelligence committee a few minutes ago jennifer williams, the other witness summoned today did show up. a national security council staffer to vice president pence. she is detailed to the white house right now from the state department. also in the middle of all of this chairman intelligence chairman adam schiff is about to kick off a new phase in the impeachment investigation with these open hearings next week. he has summoned his key witnesses to testify first. so wednesday november 13th we'll hear from acting ambassador to ukraine bill taylor. we got to see the transcript of what taylor told investigators behind closed doors yesterday when they were released publicly. then on -- also before we move to friday. wednesday we'll also hear from

state department official george kent. sources on the hill say there is good reason to think schiff will release kent's transcript later today. stand by for that. then on friday former ambassador to ukraine marie yovanovitch will testify. president trump recalled her from her post in may. adam schiff believes her story is at the very, very heart of this inquiry. >> so those open hearings will be on opportunity for the american people to evaluate the witnesses for themselves to make their own determinations about the credibility of the witnesses and also to learn firsthand about the facts of the president's misconduct. >> also developing right now the whistleblower's attorney, mark zaid, again in the spotlight. this time over some tweets he sent out in 2017 about 2 1/2 years ago. i'll read excerpts from those. he reportedly tweeted that quote, a coup has started and

claimed impeachment will follow ultimately and wrote i predict cnn will play a key role in not finishing out his full term as president. and then went on to say quote, we will get rid of him. now, sandra, the moment we hear more from bolton's people or see him arrive here we'll get back to you with that information. one quick thing to mention also. lieutenant colonel vindman is inside the scif right now reviewing testimony he provided to the committee behind closed doors a few days ago. >> sandra: jillian turner on the hill. >> bill: want to bring in dan henninger, editorial page for the "wall street journal." intriguing development. the lawyer for the whistleblower is tweeting about this a lot in the early days of this administration. what's that tell you? >> january 2017 right about the time president trump was being inaugurated. and what it tells me is that mark zaid was speaking there for the entire anti trump resistance. he is talking about proceeding

with essentially a coup to remove this president from office. but less pause here so people understand. there was a very big, significant, legitimate political event in november of 2016. 63 million americans elected donald trump into the american presidency. he is therefore entitled to serve out four years of that presidency. and yet we know that in january 2017 not just mark zaid, but a lot of democrats were determined to stop this presidency. it was always a question what is the point of the russian collusion narrative that the press was running? the point was to get to an impeachment of this president to overturn the 2016 election. that was the goal from the beginning and that is the goal as we sit here. >> bill: what mark meadows said a moment ago. you mentioned january 2017. january 30th of that year, coup has started.

impeachment will follow ultimately #lawyers. another one, jun 19th same year, 45 years from now we might be recalling stories regarding the impeachment of donald trump. i'll be old but will be worth the wait. >> they have never stopped doing this. it's the resistance. consider what donald trump did. in a sense a coup is an illegal throw of an existing government. one of the first things he did was withdraw from the paris climate accord. they'll begin the withdrawal from that. he overturned the iranian nuclear deal. he started to reversal of the obama regulations on the energy sector. that was a legalover turning of a p preexisting presidency. they're trying to illegally drive this guy from office for taking down the things that barack obama did. >> bill: the story line, republicans will try and draw out during the hearing, a

policy dispute with regard to ukraine. here is one of them now. byron york writes in the "washington examiner" testimony how trump helped ukraine. and he goes through all the transcripts about the javelin anti-tank missiles which is lethal aid that was delivered to the ukrainians to fight back with the russian tanks. here he argues you can't dispute the president was not tougher than the previous administration. all three witnesses have said apparently it was a substantial improvement. more than just blankets which is what they were getting before. >> that's exactly why they needed to have public hearings rather than these private hearings. we went through the private hearings. the democrats were leaking the parts of the testimony from those private hearings that they wanted to make the president look bad. if it was a public hearing with american people watching it they would have seen ambassador taylor say the trump policy was an improvement over the obama

policy in terms of helping ukraine. it would have mitigated some of the charges against him. >> bill: what adam schiff will say is that the facts largely cannot be disputed with regard to the investigation of joe biden. is that where democrats go? you would imagine yes. >> they keep going there but it would be -- they keep undermining their own impeachment process by keeping it private like this and trying to spin it. they are not changing many minds at all by doing that. >> bill: dan henninger, "wall street journal." we'll see in the end whether or not minds are changed. next wednesday it begins. >> can't wait. >> bill: sarcasm? >> sandra: drug cartel murders in mexico. funerals today begin for the nine americans killed in an ambush, six of them children. new questions whether family was targeted. >> we're very saddened but something like this can even

happen to three mothers and to all these children that were just traveling. i feel angry. i'm pretty sure most of the community feels angry. and i'm sick with the way the security system is working here in mexico. >> sandra: a lot of questions over what went on down there. william la jeunesse is following this from our west coast newsroom this morning. >> we can now piece together what happened from responding family, mexican officials and the children who witnessed this ambush. first the funerals today. relatives of the victims gathered yesterday in the border town of douglas, arizona, for the long drive into mexico under heavy police escort. also doctors released five children from hospitals to attend the funerals of their parents and relatives. donna lankford will be buried at 10:00 a.m. along with two

sons. lebareion miller will be buried with her four children and another will be buried on friday. on monday let's go through this. you had three vehicles, three mothers, 14 children leaving their home which sits almost on the boundary between two states, sonora and chihuahua and the demarcation between two cartels for decades have fought over drug routes. they were driving down a road when gunmen some standing on a hillside opened fire. christina in the first vehicle got out. waved and was gunned down. baby faith survived on the floorboard in the back seat. a few miles back the second car also hit. now men approached the vehicle, pulled out the surviving children, told them in spanish to leave the area. donna and her two sons were dead. surviving children began to walk home. four of them were bleeding and

couldn't and hid under a tree. the third vehicle was hit by 200 bullets and burst into flames. personal belongings were scattered outside. they claim the gang lit the vehicle on fire to lure the other gang into a trap. >> the question of whether there was confusion and crossfire is completely false. these criminals who have no shame opened fire on women and children with premeditation and with unimaginable brutality for a man. i don't know what kind of animals these people are. >> the president of mexico is under pressure to retaliate. he says violence is not the answer. other than gun traces and forensics mexico says they don't want u.s. help.

back to you. >> >> bill: tough story. breaking news on social media giant twitter, the u.s. justice department accusing two employees of spying for saudi arabia. what is that all about? who are they and how much access did they get? >> sandra: bill gates warning elizabeth warren over her wealth tax. how she is responding this morning. we'll discuss it with bill bennett. he will be our guest shortly. >> bill: the president back on the rally squad supporting louisiana for the republican governor running to upset the democrat. we'll talk to rnc chair ronna mcdaniel about that race and a lot more. the state of america coming up next. >> president trump: we're going to take back the house. and we're going to focus on those 36 democrats in trump areas, areas that i won by a lot.

>> president trump: you are going out to replace a radical, liberal democrat as your governor. you are going to have a great new republican, tremendously successful man as your governor. eddie. >> bill: a little bit of the rally last night in louisiana. hoping to push the republican across the finish line in next week's runoff race against the democratic governor john bel edwards. republican governor matt bevin is not conceding to andy beshear. a lot of stuff to go through. what happened in kentucky with the top of the ticket? >> we won five out of six state-wide. we saw matt bevin had high negatives. in our internal data months ago he was down 15, 16, 17 points. we knew the president had to get in. he is a fighter and will help

every single republican. a tight race. >> bill: you are making the case it was a bevin issue not a donald trump issue. >> when you win five of six statewide races and the governor is the lowest performer it is an issue about the candidate. the president did everything he could. we won five of six races. >> bill: you are watching the suburbs. gop loses voters in the suburbs for the third election in a row. the question for you and others what is the plan to fix it? >> you have to remember the president is not on the ballot with these races. he is going into these states and bringing a lot of our candidates across the finish line. does well in rural area. the suburbs, they're rejecting the socialist agenda of the democrat party. when you have an elizabeth warren on the ballot or joe biden talking about giving free healthcare to illegal immigrants and having a government takeover of healthcare, that's where we are getting the voters back. >> bill: it sounds like the argument democrats made in 2010 and 2014. barack obama is not on the

ballot. we don't expect to do as well. is that your argument >> no better person than turning out our votes than the president. as much as he campaigns with everybody the president being on the ballot will be the difference maker in 2020 and we get to go in and talk about the fact that we've added jobs, 6.7 million new jobs, wages are up, record low unemployment, lowest ever for the african-american community. we have a record to run on and that will resonate in the suburbs when we contrast it against a democrat who wants more and more government control. suburban voters know will bankrupt our country. >> bill: you think bevin right to the finish line but didn't put him over. >> we'll see. >> bill: should he concede? >> he is doing what he needs to do. i won't interfere with that. he knows his state better and he is recanvassing and we'll see what happens. >> bill: pennsylvania not getting as much attention. democrats came out and voted in big numbers on tuesday in pennsylvania. especially in the area of

philadelphia. how much concern do you have over that? that again is the evidence that goes back to the headline. >> the counties surrounding philadelphia that you are looking at. bucks county lost by 500 votes. that's in line that's the swing county. we won a statewide supreme court in pennsylvania tuesday night supreme court race statewide and won in the western part of pennsylvania. pennsylvania is a battleground state. the red areas are staying red. the blue areas are staying blue. >> bill: what do you think of jeff sessions running for his old seat? >> the voters of alabama will decide. you have congressman burns in that race. it is going to be six candidates on the ballot. probably go to a runoff. we'll win the seat back is what i think. >> bill: bradley burn, he is running for that seat. a clip from him. from the mueller investigation to this impeachment sham

president trump has been under constant attack. i won't watch them destroy our country. will the president campaign against jeff sessions? >> i won't speak for the president. it will be a robust primary. nobody getting in will push any candidate running out. >> bill: how do you feel today? >> i feel great. we won 12 of 13 statewide races thursday. we won a ballot initiative in colorado and a supreme court seat in pennsylvania. the enthusiasm and energy is the highest it's ever been. the small dollar donations coming into the rnc. >> bill: we'll follow your argument and see if it holds up. 20 past. >> sandra: the story we've been following on "america's newsroom." two accused murderers arrested in california after escaping

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saying this, quote, iran's expansion of proliferation sensitive activities raises concerns that iran is positioning itself to have the option of a rapid nuclear break-out. it is now time for all nations to reject this regime's nuclear extortion and take serious steps to increase pressure. >> sandra: president trump inviting turkish president erdogan to the white house next week. the visit will come on the same day of the first public impeachment hearing. lucas tomlinson is live from the pentagon with that. good morning. >> good morning, sandra. next wednesday, november 13th is expected to be busy here in washington it comes after turkish president erdogan appeared to downplay that u.s. special operations raid to kill isis leader abu bakr al-baghdadi saying his country captured his wife and some of his family members. >> we captured his wife but we didn't make a big fuss. i am announcing it here for the first time. at the same time we captured

his sister and brother-in-law in syria. >> he said members of isis's inner circle have been trying to enter turkey and al-baghdadi's family members had been arrested in the double digits. lawmakers in both u.s. political parties for cease-fire violations following the invasion of northeast syria and attacking the kurds after u.s. pulled back forces from the border. turkey turned to russian troops to fill the void. russia and turkey have begun. kurds pelted the turkish and russian vehicles with rocks. the president has reversed course and approved plans for hundreds of u.s. troops to deploy to protect oil fields in theaire in eastern syria. the head of u.s. forces in the middle east warned isis could strike again. >> we should recognize that

again since it's an ideology you will never be able to completely stamp it out. >> the u.s. is investigating reports that turkey or turkish forces are using american weapons to commit war crimes in syria. >> sandra: lucas tomlinson. >> bill: funerals beginning for nine women and children murdered in mexico. how can the u.s. deal with the cartels? will mexico step up now? >> sandra: why bill gates is not a fan of elizabeth warren's brand-new wealth tax. we'll talk about it with the nation's first drug czar bill bennett. he will join us live next.

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>> bill: it is 9:30 on the hill awaiting the possible arrival of john bolton. many questions whether or not he will appear. meanwhile another key witness has shown up. moments ago jennifer williams, a special advisor on europe and russia matters for mike pence is there. she will be in the deposition interview any moment now.

we'll let you know. >> i paid over $10 billion in taxes. i paid more than anyone in taxes. but i'm glad to have -- if i had to pay $20 billion it's fine. but when you say i should pay $100 billion i'm starting to do a little math about what i have left over. >> >> sandra: warren wants to tax billionaires 6%. microsoft's co-founder says it would put innovation at risk. bill bennett is the first drug czar. dr. bennett. good morning to you. you look at bill gates and even bill gates, bloomberg estimates he is worth $100 billion.

he sports a progressive system even he says it's too much. >> he is right. it is too much. i don't wait for bill gates and his tax bill. plenty to spare but i weep for the middle class. this was a crazy thing that elizabeth warren did. not only crazy but policy but also i think going to hurt her and the whole democrat party. a friend of mine says by laying out the details of her proposal for medicare for all and the price tag here that she has written the longest political suicide note in history. it was a democrat friend who said that. it will weigh her down and weigh down the democrat party. bill gates starts objecting you have a problem. >> sandra: dan henninger takes on a similar tone in his piece in the "wall street journal" has warren wrecked the left? he writes warren let the cat out of the bag. it's undeliverable pie in the sky. by stringing together so much

progressive wish lists she made clear how difficult and impossible it is to survive the basic test of fiscal and political responsibility. she tweeted out in response to what she heard from bill gates. i am always happy to meet with people even if we have different views. if we get the chance i would love to explain how much you would pay under my wealth tax. i promise it's not $100 billion. interesting to see if that conversation takes place, dr. bennett. >> like to see if that conversation takes place. like her to have a conversation with people from the middle class where she lays out what it will cost them and they let her know what they think about that. >> sandra: i want to ask you about what has happened in mexico these nine americans killed, the funerals begin this morning. children as young as six months old killed by this drug cartel. as we await the response from the two countries, mexico and the united states. we know president trump has reached out. that was not accepted by the

leader of mexico. as the former drug czar, what are you seeing happen here? >> let me say what i think should happen. the president should declare these cartels, murderous cartels sending drugs into this country, killing innocent people. president should declare these cartels foreign terrorist organizations and use the counter terrorism abilities this country has, which we have just seen demonstrated in the middle east. hunt these people down. tell mexico they have to cooperate but use the u.s. power, intelligence, communications and the like. double the size of the dea. put a military person in charge. don't invade mexico. tell them they need to cooperate. let me give you one number. 62,000 people killed, americans killed in vietnam. we're losing 72,000 people each year now to these illegal drugs. it is not mainly the prescription drugs that people get for their illnesses. these drugs are fentanyl,

heroin, and these cartels are in the business of sending it over. they are enemies. finally the president needs to give a speech about how drug use in this country is sending the money to the cartels but we must stop the supply that is coming in. president can do this. we know how to do these kind of operations much more expert now than we used to be. we did them in columbia back when. we can do it now and should. >> sandra: i want to take it home here with a couple more items on the political list here. as far as the so-called squad we've kept up that conversation with you for quite some time. three members of the squad throw their support behind bernie sanders. now the fourth which was a hold-out. we hadn't heard from her yet, pressley, put out a twitter video with an endorsement officially for elizabeth warren. here that is. >> i have seen elizabeth in small church basements and in packed gym nasium, she is consistent.

she never loses sight of the people. they election is a fight for the very soul of our nation. elizabeth knows how to fight and she knows how to win. i'm proud to call her my senator. i can't wait to call her our president. >> sandra: those young congresswomen have a lot of power within the democratic party. how does it influence or change things? >> i don't think it changes things much. it may be of concern to bernie sanders that she is going to warren but it isn't any concern to me. she is going from one far left person to another far left person. it sends the signal of the direction of the democrat party. >> sandra: finally i want to ask you to put your education hat on for a minute about this proposal. we know she is introducing a bill today, kamala harris, to extend the school day in this country by three hours. what impact would that have on parents as well as students? >> i think she is doing it for the parents, not for the students. school day is long enough. problem with the school day

isn't it is not long enough but it is not good enough. we don't use the hours in the most productive way. kids will tell you and a lot of parents echo it the school day is plenty long enough. we need to use it more constructively, better and smarter. schools in other countries don't spend as much time on math as we do but do better in math. it is how you use that time. putting kids to sleep for three more hours using boring lessons won't get us anywhere. i thought you were going to ask me about my tie. >> sandra: go tigers, i see the lsu purple. i'll be wearing mine this saturday as well. go tigers. big game against all -- alabama on saturday. appreciate your input. >> let's get on the terrorist thing. >> bill: federal prosecutors accusing two twitter employees of spying for saudi arabia. they allege they were using the company's data to identify and

spy on dissidents and journalists. fox business network jackie deangelis has the story. >> this is a really important story for two reasons. it gives us a sense of what the kingdom of saudi arabia, the leadership is thinking right now. they are worried about social media. remember, the arab spring was used by twitter bringing down two leaders. they are sitting back and saying it's a powerful tool. we need to monitor this and presumably the complaint doesn't allege there were any saudi government officials involved in this but presumably that they were behind it and they wanted that information. >> bill: how long have we been waiting for this story? think about the amount of technology and the number of employees that continue to be added to employee roles. >> absolutely. you look at the rise of social media over the last decade or longer and you look at this and say if this is happening in this specific example, what other examples are happening or

situations are happening that we don't know about? the justice department says there is an obligation to protect users and u.s. citizens from this kind of betrayal, if you will, the kind of intrusion. what can we do about it to actually crack down? let me give an example. if you have a friend that works twitter, facebook, google. you have an enemy and you want to get information about them. you may pay somebody to do it. what safeguard is there at these companies to make sure that's not happening? >> specific question about twitter. what do they allege these employees were doing? >> they were going into the database and getting secure information about some of the dissidents. remember, it's the dissidents that use these platforms to speak against the government. >> bill: how much information could be in there? if you are on twitter you are pretty much putting it out and making it public, right? >> but i imagine to establish your account. i can't remember. i established my account in 2007 or 2008. you give them personal information about yourself,

your identity in order to do it. possibly even your location. i would have to go back and look through the registration process. i imagine that's where the key is. >> bill: jackie deangelis nice to see you. >> sandra: university of nevada student launching a half-court shot for a chance at free tuition for a year. watch. oh! that has to feel good. and that is money in the bank. the hail mary shot sending the crowd into a frenzy as you can see and hear at the school's season opener tuesday night. watch it, hemmer. swish. did it bank? love it. all right. >> bill: president trump seizing on brand-new tweets with anti-trump bias on the team. >> president trump: democrats

must be accountable for their hoaxes and crimes. they just handed me the story. coup is started whistleblower's attorney said in 2017. that was a long time. you know when that was? it's all a hoax. >> bill: new tweets showing the head attorney calling for a coup back in 2017. senator ron johnson on that come up in a moment. >> sandra: tulsi gabbard going on the view and pushing back after joy behar calls her a useful idiot for the russians. donna brazile will weigh in on that next hour.

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complaint none of this will be going on. >> bill: rand paul blocking a senate resolution giving support to government employees who speak out on corruption. wisconsin senator ron johnson chair of the homeland security and government affairs committee. welcome back here and good day to you. where do you think this is going among your colleagues with regard to the whistleblower? >> well, first of all i really do believe the whistleblowers deserve protection against retaliation. it is very important that we have access to people that are willing to come forward and talk about wrongdoing and waste and corruption within government. but at the same time all whistleblowers are not created equal. i've learned that in my nine years in the senate. some whistleblowers have an axe to grind. some people have a political axe to grind. in this case we have an anonymous informant and for an informant to come forward with allegation against the president of the united states and expect that he or she will remain anonymous is not

particularly reasonable expectation. i don't know what is going on right now in the press. i've read accounts on who the likely whistleblower is but for whatever reason the press isn't reporting that. to a certain extent it shows bias. if this were a whistleblower against a democrat they would probably have that whistleblower's name plastered all over the place. >> bill: he or she shouldn't be identified? >> no, i think the whistleblower has been identified and pretty unreasonable for the whistleblower to expect to remain anonymous. >> bill: lindsey graham said the law is designed to protect you from being fired, not giving you anonymity. you would agree with senator graham then? >> that's largely true. there are restrictions in terms of attorney generals releasing the name. i don't know -- the whistleblower protection act is different from the intelligence community. again, is it reasonable for an

anonymous informant to remain anonymous when you lodge these kind of charges against the president of the united states blowing up into an impeachment inquiry? they ought to realize that before they level the charges. >> bill: democrats would say the whistleblower now is irrelevant because of the witnesses who will come forward next week. is that a fair argument? >> i don't believe so. how this complaint was lodged, the false statements by congressman schiff in terms of his committee not having access to the whistleblower. how this complaint even got brought to the attention of congress. i think it's part of the process that we do need to take a look at when we evaluate the entire situation. >> bill: what do you think about the lawyer for the whistleblower? you've heard about the tweets. apparently he was pretty active in his opposition to this president and add min -- administration. >> sandra: that's one of the reason why the president should have the right to question whoever lodges the accusation.

it's pretty basic tenet of is to confront your accuser. the president is being denied that. i'm sympathetic with the administration's position they would like to know who the whistleblower is if it ends up being a full impeachment and trial in the senate. >> bill: one more thing. it appears just in the past 24 hours there is somewhat of a ground swell of support from republicans to bring the bidens into this hearing next week. here is senator kennedy on that. specifically hunter biden. >> i do not think it is possible to fairly litigate this entire issue without answering a second very straight forward question. what did hunter biden do for the money? what did hunter biden do for the money? and i don't think any of us have the answer to that. but i predict we will before this is over with. >> bill: do you?

>> well, my point throughout this has been i'm sympathetic with the president wanting to know how did this false russian collusion with the trump campaign narrative begin? one of the things i would suggest to the press is they know exactly who leaked the information, how this story got spun up from the day after the election to all of a sudden the appointment of a special counsel. the press knows to answer to that. that is actually a story that should be told. i think the american people have a right to know and the president is being very reasonable if he suspects it is part of that story started in the ukraine he would like to know that. from my standpoint that's always what he has been asking for is what is the truth about what happened during the 2016 campaign? not only ukraine but within our intelligence community with the f.b.i. and certainly what i've been focusing my committee's attention on and our investigation. >> bill: schiff said the facts are largely not contested going to the question about joe biden. final comment on that before we

go. >> i think things are contested. i don't know exactly what all happened. i have my own testimony from the standpoint when i asked the president was there something ukraine had to do before you released the aid? he adamantly, vehemently denied there would be an arrangement like that. i would say there is conflicting testimony. >> bill: thank you for your time. ron johnson. we'll see how it goes down next week. thank you on the hill today. >> sandra: mitch mcconnell blasting twitter over its decision to ban political ads. it chooses winners and losers and would hurt fledgling speakers who aren't already famous. a controversial ban passed in las vegas making it illegal to sleep on city streets there. what happens to those people who do it anyway? aetna takes a total approach to health and wellness

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>> sandra: it is day two of chris brown's massive yard sale. the singer posting his address on social media inviting people to come on out. jonathan hunt is following all this from los angeles for us. good morning. >> good morning, sandra. it is day two of the hottest yard sale in america. if you want to dress like chris brown, you have about three hours to get here and line up with hundreds of other fans keen to wear the sneakers the superstar perhaps once wore on stage. maybe the jacket he wore when he won his last grammy or perhaps whatever he was wearing during that car ride with rihanna. hundreds of folks thought getting used clothing sprinkled with star dust was worth an hour's long wait in the southern california sunshine on day one. some having driven hundreds of miles to get there. alerted by a post on chris

brown's verified instagram account announcing the yard sale giving his address and promising significantly marked down high-end designeder items. >> i don't know what they have up there but from the video that i seen that he had some nice old pieces. >> old school nikes, limited edition duds. he is giving out bags to represent whose tour. solid. it is on my size so perfect. >> los angeles police officers were on hand to control the crowds and traffic and to insure no scuffles broke out as patrons tried to buy. if those particular brand favorites were even there. what wasn't there, chris brown himself. he was a no-show at his own yard sale but there is always today, sandra. another chance to pick up used and sweat soaked sneakers. he says he is giving the profits to charity.

perhaps he will choose one that helps the victims of domestic abuse. >> sandra: all right. well, i guess if you are looking for a bargain. thank you. >> bill: take the easy beats, jonathan. president trump rallying republicans in louisiana. tuesday's election results show the importance of the suburban votes. what lessons can republicans learn for 2020. looks like john bolton is a no show. both sides getting their strategy together for the first public hearings. our a-team will be in here ready to go in a matter of moments. top of the hour, come on back. . . but one thing we could both agree on was getting geico to help with renters insurance. ♪ yeah, geico did make it easy to switch and save. ♪ oh no. there's a wall there now.

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>> sandra: former national security advisor john bolton a no-show on capitol hill this morning where he has been called to appear before the impeachment panels for the inquiry, the ongoing inquiry. welcome to a new hour of "america's newsroom." i'm sandra smith. >> bill: nice to see you on a thursday. i'm bill hemmer. good morning. bolton was asked to appear before the house investigators for a closed door interviews, lawyer said he wouldn't show up without a subpoena. multiple sources telling us no subpoena has been sent. there is still a possibility he could be there. doesn't seem likely. all of this as we learn a lot more about the push for the whistleblower to go public. senator ron johnson moments ago on "america's newsroom" made this case. >> all whistleblowers are not created equal. i learned that in my nine years in the senate.

some have an axe to grind. some people have a political axe to grind. in this case what we have is an anonymous informant. for an informant to come forward with allegation against the president of the united states and expect that he or she will remain anonymous is not particularly reasonable expectation. >> sandra: jam-packed hour coming up. guy lewis standing by with his analysis and an all-star a-team is on deck. tracking all the latest developments on capitol hill where democrats have announced plans for the first open impeachment hearing. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel kicking off another busy morning. >> good morning. daytime drama is coming to capitol hill. open hearings set to begin next week. we know bill taylor, the acting top diplomat to ukraine is set to appear as is george kent. next wednesday. the former ambassador to ukraine marie yovanovitch is

due to testify next friday. here today as lawmakers wrap up depositions behind closed doors jennifer williams, a long-time foreign service officer assigned to be vice president mike pence's for europe and russia. she is required to appear and will answer the committee's questions. sounds like she was subpoenaed. we expect to see alexander vindman. he is expected to review his testimony today to make sure nothing classified slips out. so far leading white house ally is not impressed. >> it's a joke. the whole thing is being driven by partisans in the house. adam schiff is not looking for the truth and the testimony is incoherent. it depends on who you talk to. there is one common theme here. the president of the ukraine and the president of the united states have both said there was no quid pro quo. >> a key senate democrat watching this from across the

capitol has drawn this conclusion at this stage. >> i said the impeachment is the right thing to do because i think that donald trump did things even beyond what richard nixon did in terms of talking to foreign powers asking them for their help in his personal campaign, his personal reelection. i don't know if it is grounds for removal. >> the one player we haven't seen today is john bolton. we've asked the committee for an update on his status. >> sandra: mike emanuel on capitol hill. >> bill: want to bring in former u.s. attorney guy lewis serving during the george w. bush administration. you look happy today down there in the sunshine of florida. >> good morning. >> bill: you watched the back and forth over the past 24 hours. the calls from some for the whistleblower to go public. calls from others to identify the lawyer and some of the tweets that he sent out 2 1/2 years ago. how do you think that sets up next week?

>> well, i think that these are fair and legitimate calls both for the whistleblower to be -- his identity to be made public and his motivations to be reviewed and frankly if you can't look specifically at the whistleblower at this point, let's take a look at his lawyer. i don't mean any disrespect by this, sandra or bill. but let's -- here is what the lawyer has tweeted. january of 2017, a coup has started. impeachment will follow. july 2017, almost a year and a half, two years ago. i predict that cnn will play a key role in donald trump's downfall. a little bit later that month we will get rid of him and his supporters. these are his words, not mine. a little later, the coup will occur in many steps. listen, if i'm a lawyer on the other side or a fair-minded

american, i have great concerns about these kind of texts. >> sandra: guy, when it comes to the happenings this week leading up to the public hearings next week, jn bolton has not been subpoenaed yet and expected to be a no show at this point. mick mulvaney tomorrow. what does their appearances or likely no-shows mean for all this? >> great question, sandra. bet the house that bolton won't be there. it is not going to happen. bet the house that the chief of staff will not show. these guys aren't going to show voluntarily. frankly, when they do, bolton will wind up. my prediction is bolton will wind up saying look, there was nothing illegal. there was no quid pro quo about this call. bolton may wind up saying hey, i didn't necessarily like going outside the lines, using giuliani and not using the national security apparatus

that was in place. i wouldn't be surprised about that. but nobody is going to say the president did anything illegal. certainly anything as the constitution says as it requires bribery, treason, high crime or misdemeanor. >> bill: next week 45 minutes at a time during these hearings. that's as opposed to the normal five or 10 minutes from regular lawmakers. some of the staff attorneys will be conducting these interviews. what difference does that make do you think, guy? >> i think it will give a american people really -- that's the jury in this case, bill. the jury is the american people. an incredibly fair-minded jury. they'll get a chance to look at this thing not in little sound bites and little snippets, which is what we see all the time, which i think frankly is useless. but they will be able to see the witness, their demeanor,

the questions, the answer. i think it will be a lot more serious. >> sandra: guy lewis, appreciate your time. bring in the a-team. jessica tarlov fox news contributor. there she is. james freeman, assistant editor of the "wall street journal" editorial page and rich lowry, editor of national review and author of a book. welcome to all of you. rich, great to see you this morning. >> good to be here. >> sandra: welcome back. start this off for us. we are wrapping another week of this. next week changes. we'll have public hearings for the first time. >> i imagine taylor will be a credible witness, professional, sober guy by all accounts. 45-minute blocks for each side makes more sense. will he really light up people's tv screens? this is a worry that democrats have to have. i think it was improper but does the enormity of it justify

removing a president from office within 12 months of an election that he has a good chance of winning. and is the drama here enough to hold the public's attention for months and months. >> sandra: good question. >> we'll find out. i think it is important, though, to have these hearings in the public. this is what republicans have been asking for. that was their key talking point. it is all being done in secret. we aren't allowed to do anything. 47 of them could have equal time questioning those people who were testifying. now you will have it out there. we're stripping away every talking point from the republicans. you want to hear bill taylor. hearing from marie yovanovitch where you had andy mccarthy saying she is owed an apology for how they were running a shadow foreign policy through rudy giuliani. certainly impossible. we'll get to the point where the senate will have to decide whether it's something to convict and remove a president over. >> bill: the point was she got

caught up in the crossfire of the public policy dispute with ukraine. the point he makes. >> and how she represented it in her testimony that has been put out there now she was told by trump appointees like gordon sondland, confirmed a quid pro quo she should tweet her support for president trump to keep her job. that's wholly improper. >> bill: the amount of support that ukraine actually did get under the administration as opposed to the previous. >> you bring up the previous administration. if barack obama had made this phone call and said hey, this shady biden deal looks pretty bad. you ought to look into it. along with saying i want to know if there was any misuse of national security resources in 2016. if he had done this as he was leaving office we'd say what a public-spirited, nonpartisan act to clean up his administration. so it's not the act, it's the assumed political motivation by trump. well, there is not much that

happens in washington that doesn't have some political motivation. that's why you see all of this testimony, it is not expert witnesses saying here is the section of the us code that was violated. it is a lot of unelected officials telling us how they feel about what happened. >> sandra: breaking news, jennifer williams is the mike pence aide appearing on capitol hill this morning. we're now getting word from our own capitol hill reporter chad per gram that they ultimately did issue a subpoena. the white house did try to stop her from appearing this morning. we saw her arrive on capitol hill. she did show but now we know it was via subpoena. >> bill: pushing back a little. the comparable instance if going into the 2012 election barack obama said to ukraine you will not receive close to $400 million in aid unless you dig up dirt on tag romney. >> was he taking a big check

from a company getting investigated in the company? >> that's the funny thing going on here talking about the text from the whistleblower's lawyer. that firm has represented the rnc and daily caller. it doesn't matter. the whistleblower complaint has been corroborated by the memorandum of the call. bill taylor, gordon sondland, the president of the united states. >> at the end of the day ukraine gets the money. they don't dig up dirt on joe biden. they don't investigate joe biden or hunter biden. they don't make a statement they'll investigate the energy company involved and they get the money. that's the ultimate defense republican senators fall back on. whatever you think of the maneuvering, ukraine got the money and there was no investigation. >> bill: the president last night in louisiana, monroe, said this on the -- >> president trump: an incredible state for trump and been really incredible. under republican leadership the economy is booming, wages are

rising, confidence is soaring and america is stronger than ever before. >> bill: go ahead and roll it. we'll get to the right sound bite. number 4. >> president trump: democrats must be accountable for their hoaxes and for their crimes. now corrupt politicians nancy pelosi and shifty adam schiff -- and the crooked media have launched the deranged delusional, destructive and hyper partisan impeachment witch hunt. it is all a hoax. they say january 2017 a coup has started. and the impeachment will follow. >> bill: that's the case he is making. deranged, delusional, destructive. "wall street journal" says this. with regard to the election this week anti-republican

trend, james freeman. gop loses voters in the suburbs for the third election in a row. >> this has been the recent trend. more democratic votes in the suburbs. more republican votes in rural area. long-term it is a concern certainly for trump and more short-term but i think the issue is do the democrats nominate in 2020 a moderate like andy beshear? you watch the democratic debates and you would say probably not. so it's a question of -- always the question with trump. what is the alternative? if the alternative is a moderate he could be in trouble. >> yeah. so trump in 2016 took enough of the suburbs to get over the top versus hillary clinton. hillary was so radioactive. since then the suburbs have been flipping the other way in three elections. but this is the key question. what's the alternative going to be? elizabeth warren or someone that will send enough of the

suburban voters back to trump at the same time he turns up his rural working class base and gets over the top again? open question. >> sandra: let me follow up on that with the "wall street journal" says this. gop is wishing this away or ignoring it or turning a blind eye. three novembers it continues. republicans tried to explain it away they are fooling themselves. they can't w*irn by turning out the trump base. they need to regain support in the suburbs or they'll lose the house, the white house and the senate come 2020. >> they need a cost of living based agenda i believe that would have appeal both to the working class voters and both in the suburbs. and that's something that needs to be thought through and worked out. >> i think resolving the trade disputes will probably be a good thing. seeking some middle ground on immigration might be helpful. but at the end of the day i don't think there are a lot of suburban voters who are going to say i don't like those tweets, therefore i want to blow up the healthcare system. and get rid of my health plan.

so that is i think the match-up that the president probably wants next year. >> i think elizabeth warren would be an incredibly feisty opponent for president trump. if you look at joe biden's now, the elizabeth warren surge has gone away. one national poll where she was in the lead. >> sandra: after she revealed the $52 trillion plan. >> she is doing well in iowa. >> she is leading in iowa. >> i'm saying joe biden is still the clear frontrunner here. he is also the only person who is on top beating president trump in the battleground states. there are important numbers from that. he is up 31 points with women. achilles heel for president trump. he did do enough to win in 2016. they have huge margins for biden. if the suburban trend continues joe biden is the candidate able

to pull off 2020. >> he doesn't have anything like the strength that you would expect of a traditional frontrunner. it look terrible for him in iowa and worrisome in new hampshire and fundraising numbers are terrible. given all that, he is strong in the polls but that is a lot to overcome. >> just to agree with jess on the potential down side for sanders and warren. a navigator poll that says only 25% of democrats know that medicare for all gets rid of their health plans. so this is -- >> bill: until they find out. >> there is a reason they find it medicare for all. it gets rid of traditional medicare as well as everything else. >> bill: good luck on the book. come on back. bill gates not the biggest fan of elizabeth warren's wealth

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>> i paid over $10 billion in taxes. i paid more than anyone in taxes. but i -- [laughter] if i had to pay $20 billion it's fine. but when you say i should pay $100 billion i'm starting to do a little math about what i have left over. >> bill: he has a calculator that runs that high. that's microsoft founder bill gates not thrilled with elizabeth warren's wealth tax plan. charles payne. not thrilled would be an understatement. >> that would be an understatement. i have to tell you, he said he would be thrilled to pay whatever he had to pay $20 billion. he can afford it. it is like the small business owner that has to pay $400,000. would have to pay an extra $400,000.

that's the scary part. someone who worth a few hundred billion but people starting to move the needles for their family, business and community is where the destruction comes in. >> sandra: he is saying it comes to a point where i don't have any money left. >> bill: >> i'm wondering. i'm doing the segment on my show framing it as elizabeth warren throws a hail mary in the first quarter. she is going for broke with this thing. if she has a conversation with bill gates he might actually have a chance to take this back a few notches. >> sandra: she said i am happy to meet with people even if we have different views. if we get the chance i would love to get the chance how much you would pay under my wealth tax. i promise it's not $100 billion. >> wooh, before he was like load up the jets and we're moving to tahiti somewhere.

she knows the numbers are starting to free fall. >> sandra: he was asked if he would support her over donald trump. he didn't answer. he said he would support the most professional candidate that was put forward. >> we won't go into that area. a good opportunity for warren to take him up on this offer. give him a phone call. meet with him and fine-tune her thing a little bit because everyone is destroying it. you know what? early momentum she had is completely gone now. >> aoc is in on the action criticizing jamie dimon. >> that's why i don't talk tofp about the billionaires. i'm not here for the billion airs. i believe these policies hurt those who would love to be millionaires. forget about the billionaires for a moment. the small plumber who now has 10 employees would love to take it to 20 employees. this is where this kind of

economic stuff is the most damaging. >> bill: people want a chance to dream. >> sandra: be careful what this does as far as stifling innovation and the ability for businesses to grow. >> goes to the heart of what american is all about, the land of opportunity. >> sandra: what about kamala harris introducing a bill saying she wants the school day in america to be three hours longer. >> i did research, of course. china has the longest school day. they start at 7:30 in the morning to 5:00 at night. but they do everything. they learn english, math, science, swim for two hours, being facetious. she is not saying it as much as an educational policy a more to help working parents. >> sandra: does she have a point? >> she has something of a point. my daughter is a single mom. i pay for the ymca for my granddaughter.

she goes in the morning and afternoon so my daughter can work. but i still think when we start talking about education the focus should be on curriculum. we are not raising up our children -- all of our children to be competitive in the 21st century. >> bill: she says i was raised by a single mother and know how stressful and costly it is to juggle work and school schedules. justice for working families is on the ballot. it will give parents more after school opportunities for their children. >> it is part of the package of things that are being presented out there. i don't think it will pole vault her numbers but worth a debate. >> sandra: the windy city news in chicago reportedly the "chicago tribune" is saying it is -- that google is set 800,000 square feet expected to set up quickly becoming the midwest's silicon valley. is this a good thing for the city?

>> it is absolutely a good thing. these kind of jobs, the silicon valley jobs and other jobs are replacing low-paying retail jobs. it is great for the local economies. anyone who can get that business in there. it doesn't sound like chicago foerkd over a lot of goodies for it either from what i've read so far. >> sandra: they already have 1200 employees in the city already. dow, shall we throw it up there? new record. >> bill: are we getting a china deal? what's moving out there? >> before there was even a trade dispute there was a a thing called earnings. it's okay. china stuff is news today. keep in mind that ultimately what moves the market are earningings. we had some good -- some critical, important names. it all gets back to the u.s. economy, american consumer, soaring wages, record low unemployment. that's what is powering this thing.

i think it has a ways to go. i really do. >> you think it will top 28,000 before the end of the year? a brand-new record on the dow and s&p 500. >> next year we have gdp and wage growth every month next year of 4%. i think that powers us into a rally into the election. >> bill: save the sound bite. >> sandra: thank you, charles. >> bill: i'll get you the transcript. >> sandra: speaking of elizabeth warren putting the dreams of the far left on paper. will trillions in new spending work for her or could it spell trouble for democrats? donna brazile is our headliner this morning. we'll get her to react to that and more. >> this is a plan that provides healthcare for people all across this country. if we do nothing, the squeeze on america's middle class will get worse and worse and worse.

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>> we saw that matt bevin had a huge uphill battle. high negatives. when you win five of six statewide races and the governor is the lowest performer it is an issue about the candidate. the president did everything he could. >> sandra: ronna mcdaniel on "america's newsroom" last hour discussing tuesday night's election results as kentucky governor matt bevin says voter fraud may have played a role in his apparent loss of his reelection bid. incumbent trailing his democratic challenger by 5,000 votes. time for our headliner donna brazile. good morning to you. first your response to that this morning. >> well, i agree with the chairwoman. the republicans did hold on and flip two of the seats statewide seats. the fact is that mr. bevin is

not a very popular governor. i think the voters wanted a change in that position. and let's see what happens with the canvassing, which is going to be underway in about seven days. they'll canvas all 120 counties. and if there are any irregularities or problems i'm sure the county clerks and others will find out. >> bill: here is bevin on that issue making the case on the recount. >> we want the people of kentucky to have absolute confidence that their votes were counted as they should have been counted. that the law was followed, and that regardless of whether they vote this side of the aisle or that side of the aisle, that they can always have confidence that the electoral process works. >> bill: let's see whether or not he wins on the challenge. i think kentucky is a little more complicated than most have analyzed it thus far. that goes along the following lines. the northern counties in northern kentucky that are the suburbs of cincinnati, the

democrat beshear won those counties, flipped them from bevin. if you look at the other five statewide candidates, they pretty much romped across the board. beating democrats. >> it's a red state. >> bill: you have to go deeper to understand it. >> i think if you go deeper you'll scratch what's underneath the bottom. that is mr. beshear won counties typical democratic counties from the past. he won a lot of the eastern counties, counties that used to vote democratic. so i do believe that this was a game changer for mr. bevin because he is unpopular, he has insulted teachers and insulted many other leaders including some of his fellow republicans. this was a referendum on him and the voters decided they wanted to go in a different direction. >> sandra: a question the "wall street journal" is asking about your party this morning. has elizabeth warren wrecked the left? talks about her medicare for all plan showing progressivism is undeliverable pie in the sky.

it goes on taking her on saying indeed by stringing together in detail so many progressive wish lists she has made clear how difficult, if not impossible, done yeah, it is for them to survive the most basic tests of fiscal plausibility. >> that's their opinion. let me say this. whether you look at it from the perspective of the "wall street journal" which has also screamed about the rise in deficits under the president and this administration, the tariffs, the trade agreements, we're having a debate within the democratic party over what's the best way forward. not just on healthcare, taxes and education. and while this conversation is taking place within the democratic primary i do believe most americans are concerned about our environment, concerned about income inequality. they want to find candidates who will provide solutions. we'll see what happens. >> bill: why did she lead with

the $52 trillion? does she think that's where your party is and where it's going? >> as you well know there are about 12 or 13 different proposals to fix our broken healthcare system. and the public option, the affordable care act, the medicare for all, these are proposals the democrats are putting forward to help the american people provide good-quality healthcare to all americans. she is leading with -- she has now a quote, unquote, price tag that will -- is about $20 trillion more than that we are going to pay out over the next 10 years. >> bill: she thinks leading with the strong left is the way to win. do you? >> i think she is leading with passion. she knows that we have to have some structural changes. you may not like them but we shouldn't demean the fact or denounce the fact that what she is trying to do is come up with solutions. again, we can disagree, i can

disagree with some of her policy proposals but she is putting forward her plans and the american people will ultimately decide what is best for the country. >> sandra: bill gates, a fan of progressive tax system is calling into question how far she has gone with that. we want to ask you about this moment on the view yesterday with tulsi gabbard. >> some of you have accused me of being a traitor to my country, a russian asset, a trojan horse or -- >> we haven't accused you. >> useful idiot. you are saying it is not deliberately >> it could be. >> that i'm too stupid and naive and lack the intelligence to know what i am doing. that is extremely offensive. >> you are on state tv all the time. why do you go on fox? >> i go on tucker carlson, bret baier, go on msnbc and all of

them. i'm here to talk to -- >> sandra: hillary clinton calling her a russian asset. she took that on. >> she just qualified for the november debate. she will have an opportunity to address not just some of -- i'm sorry, she will have an opportunity to address these questions. she is my former colleague. we were dnc officials. she is tough, tenacious and understands why she wants to lead this country and i support candidates of all different stripes and varieties. i do believe it's time for the american people to decide which way the country wishes to go. >> sandra: are you supportive of her candidacy? >> every time i'm on this show. i won't fall in love. >> sandra: i was just asking if you support her continued candidacy in the race. >> i support all of the candidates. i believe that when it's their time to drop out they drop out. by the way, i'm going to miss beto. i will miss beto, okay?

there was no other candidate that when i was in the gym working out i could follow all his moves. i'm going to miss beto, all right? some of the other ones let's just say it is time to wrap it up. >> sandra: get the hand gestures ready for the fight song this weekend. >> lsu, go tigers. >> bill: from las vegas now, the city of sin banning the homeless from sleeping or camping on the street. what do you think of that? it is heartless or a way to get a handle on the growing crisis in america's cities. >> sandra: battle heating up over twitter's ban of all political ads. mitch mcconnell slamming it as nothing more than an attack on free speech. is the first amendment under assault on social media? >> twitter will either have to ban the press from advertising their own work or create an enormous double standard that

would amplify the already privileged speakers who already possess multi-million dollar platforms.

>> sandra: twitter's recent decision to ban all political ads from its platform is sparking backlash. mitch mcconnell now calling the move a threat to free speech. undermines our democracy. brett larson is here with fox news headlines. >> the senate majority leader saying twitter is effectively picking winners and losers by doing this. i'm not sure how he draws that conclusion from this. the policy is pretty straight forward that twitter has announced. they did it a couple of days after we saw facebook saying that they aren't going to require truth in advertising on political ads and that resulted in an ad being run on facebook that showed senator lindsey graham with his arm around congresswoman ocasio-cortez saying senator lindsey graham

endorses the green new deal. is that true? no. but the ad did not asterisk that. >> bill: what is the difference between a political ad on twitter and your local tv station. >> political ads on television and cable stations can say whatever they want. that's the issue at stake here. the further issue, though, with social media, with facebook and twitter is not so much the advertising, it is the paid promotion of postings that you make. if for example, if you know mary posts a praise about president trump did this and i think he is a greatest president in the world the trump campaign can promote that. more people see it. it is not an advertisement. it is mary talking about it. >> bill: you are paying for the tv spot as well just like you would have had twitter not reversed its policy. >> right. what we don't know is if

twitter is going to say the same thing for retweeting. you can pay to promote tweets. this is really a change in the dynamic of how we consume the media. television you get content, news maybe if you are watching a news station and an advertisement. on social media the lines between all of that is blurry. i think that's where the concern comes in here. so the senate majority leader has an interesting point. i wouldn't say it's twitter picking winners and looseers but twitter saying we want out. we don't want our platform to be weaponized. it has the potential to do that with the russian influence in the campaign. interesting to note u.s. representative khana, part of his district is silicon valley. he says there is a middle

ground. >> sandra: two former twitter employees are accused of spying on behalf of saudi arabia. >> this is an interesting story. it goes back several years back to 2015. one twitter employee was a u.s. citizen. the other was a saudi national working with a third person. they in their jobs at twitter had the kind of access where they would be able to get personal information about people who were tweeting so that if you are a dissident or speaking out against the kingdom of saudi arabia, they would be able to track you down. in one instance of something they shared in the disclosure they said they had the guy's i.p. address, they knew he wasn't tweeting from his smartphone. he was actually using a computer and if you know that someone is using a computer and you can get their i.p. address you can have an easy job of geo locating them. with those two pieces of information, a phone number, email address, i.p. address all that stuff mixed together easy to find. >> bill: if it's true that

saudi arabia is doing this, who else is doing this? just about everybody, probably. >> you would think exactly. that's the problem a lot of these technology companies face now. trade secrets and algorithms and all the stuff they capture is accessible to some people inside the building so to speak. where if you were stealing the blueprints for something you would have to put them in a tube and sneak them out of the building. in this instance. >> sandra: the bigger umbrella of privacy for its users. can they protect user privacy? there is growing concern they cannot. brett, thanks. >> bill: see you later. sin city adopting a new ban on the homeless making it a crime to sleep on the street. is this the best way to avoid potential problems? our lawyer is in the house next. >> what we have created a flawed. it is flawed. but it is a step and it is a

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jail because they can't afford fines. so ultimately i see this as an unworkable solution. i understand why they're trying to do it. >> sandra: do you see a better solution? >> listen, building better places and affordable housing for people would be one way but we also have to keep in mind a lot of people that are homeless don't want to go to shelters and don't want housing. they want to live in that environment. it is a problem. i come through manhattan all the time dealing with urination on the streets and fecal matter and difficult for businesses. i understand why they're trying to do it. it is a half solution. i don't think it's workable. >> bill: you saw the story from austin, texas this week. they had a big problem. >> it is a big problem. we cleaned it up. for the businesses where the folks are camping out or staying there are being

brutalized economically. >> bill: for those who supported what the governor did in austin. allowed your laws to be a magnet that drew people to the city to be on the sidewalks there. boise idaho a challenge about a year ago. what happened? >> ninth circuit looked at that law. it did not -- this law provides. it didn't provide notification to the homeless person and transportation and letting them know that a shelter bed is available. so what they did with this law in vegas is they said you cannot be cited if there is not a shelter bed available to you. but bill, sandra, this is what we have going there. we have 14,000 people who are homeless and there is only 2,000 shelter beds that are available. so what solution is this? there are still 12,000 people at any point in time on the street. to get around the boise prohibition they basically said you cannot cite somebody if there is not a shelter bed available. >> sandra: there is no easy

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role in the 2020 election. welcome back to "america's newsroom," i'm sandra smith. >> bill: good morning, i'm bill hemmer. vice president pence in new hampshire filing paperwork to get on the republican ballot in the first presidential primary of the election year a little more than three months from now. live team coverage. bret baier has analysis. first peter doocy has the story. he is in new hampshire. what's happening? >> and you can see me here because i'm on my tip toes. the whole national political press is here in the new hampshire secretary of state's office so the former vice president mike pence can fill out the paperwork and bring a $1,000 check from the trump campaign to officially get president trump and vice president pence on the primary ballot. i'll have our photographer flip the camera around. as he does you can see there is a desk where last week mayor pete buttigieg and bernie sanders gave their checks over.

joe biden tomorrow. hallway you can see there are dozens, if not hundreds of supporters of the president and the vice president who have been patiently waiting for several hours just to try to catch a glimpse. they were chanting four more years. this is something that everybody has to do if they want to get on the ballot. four years ago to this week candidate donald trump came and there was certainly fanfare but there was not secret service because he was just a businessman there. he had not won anything. the state house now is completely locked down. put up bike racks last night and this is a state house where lawmakers with a conceal carry permit can normally have their firearms with them at work. that is not the case this morning. everything is completely secured and we understand that the former -- that the v.p.,

mike pence, is downstairs at the gift shop picking up something for the family back in d.c. and he should be up here to the desk any minute. >> bill: peter doocy. >> sandra: as one does bret baier anchor of "special report" joining us now. we may see mike pence signing. >> this is part of the tradition of new hampshire and they have a very strict system where you have to get there and file and give them a $1,000 check. it is a big deal. the fact that this is happening, getting all the attention, is obviously something the trump campaign welcomes. we had a piece last night and kristin fisher talked about it yesterday with the trump campaign how it is positioned heading into 2020. this is a much different campaign. this is a campaign flush with money. a campaign flush with digital

expertise and also efrjs -- emails. they have thousands of names from all the events. they are well positioned. democrats realize that and are starting to worry about the prowess of the trump campaign's digital effort. this is an interesting moment in new hampshire politics lore. >> sandra: we'll continue to watch the happenings. we expect to see mike pence shortly. want to ask about the former attorney general jeff sessions announcing the bid for the alabama senate seat. we had ronna mcdaniel on with us earlier and she said this about that. >> we'll see what he does. the voters of alabama will decide. it is going to be six candidates on the ballot. probably go to a runoff with two top candidates. we are going to win that seat back. >> sandra: what do you think?

>> it is fascinating the politics down there for all grief that jeff sessions took he has a lot of goodwill from his years as a u.s. senator for alabama. the fact that he is getting back in this race makes that primary very interesting to watch. the question is whether the vote is split and it provides an avenue for judge roy moore to get votes and that for republicans would be potentially damaging as they go up against doug jones the incumbent democrat. there is a good chance take sessions can pull together a coalition down there with or without the president's support. pull out a primary win. if that happens he would be favored against jones. >> sandra: going to be interesting to watch that. we know the president is heading down to alabama over the weekend. meanwhile mike pompeo saying that iran is positioning itself for a rapid nuclear break-out in a tweet he writes. iran's plan to increase nuclear

activity raised concerns that iran is positioning itself for a rapid nuclear break-out. it is now time for all nations to reject its nuclear extortion and increase pressure. what is happening here, bret? >> in is a massive story and one that i think is going to be on the front pages if not already, it is going to be because iran is essentially thumbing its nose at the international community infusing their centrifuges, 1,000 centrifuges to speed up the ability to make nuclear material. material that could be used to make a nuclear bomb. the u.s. has publicly said that will not -- they will not allow that to happen but it is happening. they are moving forward with the nuclear production beyond the iran nuclear deal. at the same time the iaea has an emergency meeting today in vienna about a secret facility iran said was a rug factory. inspectors found traces of nuclear material. the same facility that benjamin

netanyahu pointed out as a nuclear secret facility in iran. so things are moving fast with iran and don't be surprised if we're talking a lot about that in coming weeks. >> sandra: very interesting stuff. we'll continue to watch all of that. he does say, bret, that the iran sanctions are working. he says but we have to continue to press. they are having a real impact but we have to continue to press. that was the secretary of state. we'll hear more from you on your show tonight "special report" at 6:00 p.m. bret baier, thank you. >> bill: more breaking news from the hill where we're learning congressman jim jordan wants the whistleblower to testify. sources say the republicans will submit a list of witnesses they would like to have by saturday. the question is whether chairman schiff will allow it. john bolton hasn't shown up for his deposition. a subpoena has not been issued for him. jillian turner is live on the hill watching this go back and forth. what do you have? >> that's right, bill.

we've been here since early this morning and have had no john bolton sightings yet. as of 9:00 a.m. bolton had not received a subpoena from the intelligence committee. unlikely he will show up today unless they issue one. we're also learning that the -- we know now, she has been here for a couple of hours, jennifer williams is here. she has been testifying inside that scif. we found out just a few moments ago, though, that she did receive a subpoena. we're also hearing the white house tried to prevent her from providing her testimony today. the subpoena was issued this morning to insure that she showed up. yesterday intel chairman adam schiff released transcript testimony from bill taylor the acting ambassador to ukraine who took over after president trump recalled yovanovitch. he told investigators that gordon sondland was the one who

instructed ukraine officials to investigate the biden. he said it was not a quid pro quo. i observed in order to move forward on the security assistance the ukrainians were told by ambassador sondland they had to pursue these investigations. now, taylor also said that rudy giuliani was the person who attached conditions to that u.s. aid to ukraine. taylor saying i don't know what was in the president's mind. congressman zeldin asking him. where was this condition coming from if you're not sure it was coming from the president? taylor says i think it was coming from mr. giuliani. zeldin says but not from the president? and taylor says i don't know. now, bill, the other thing going on here at the moment is that lieutenant colonel vindman who provided testimony last week is here. he is reviewing the testimony that he provided to the committee. it is a courtesy for national security reasons they give to some of these witnesses they go

through what they said prior to the committee's releasing all of this publicly to make sure there isn't anything classified that needs to be redacted. >> bill: thank you, jillian turner watching that. news on the hill. >> sandra: president trump taking aim at the whistleblower's attorney after tweets emerged of him talking about a coup. mark zaid tweeting in 2017 coup has started. first of many steps. rebellion and impeachment will follow. the president teeing off at last night's rally in louisiana on that. >> president trump: it's all a hoax. they say january 2017 a coup has started and the impeachment will follow ultimately. it is all a hoax. it is a scam. >> sandra: josh holmes and jon summers. i'll start with you first.

also reported before the president began last night in july of 2017 zaid the lawyer for the whistleblower tweeted i predict cnn will play a key role in the president not having a full term. >> i don't think it's a problem at all. the attorney doesn't like the president. big deal. that doesn't mean anything. it doesn't take away any of the credibility of the whistleblower. i think all this effort to undermine the whistleblower to actually put this person in danger by threatening to expose their name i think is all a waste of time. the reality is the whistleblower is the one who obviously led to the impeachment inquiry but at the end of the day it's the president's own words and the testimony from people who have already been deposed that are far more damning than anything the whistleblower brought forward. >> sandra: guy lewis found issue with the fact that the lawyer for the whistleblower

also tweeted a slough of impeachment related -- he referenced white house administration employees. >> look, this is incredibly consequential with all due respect to jon. what we found in the trump era almost everything, whether it's russian collusion, mueller investigation or now ukraine, all of these salacious allegations printed about the president that get years-long investigations and we find out over the course of time that there is information that had we known at the beginning would have mitigated all of this. what we found out now about ukraine, about the whistleblower, is that there was a motive here between the whistleblower himself and his attorneys to conduct an operation exactly like the one that's going on in the democratic house of representatives. what that operation is is to use his own words a coup to try to undo the will of the american people to start

impeachment investigation and undermine this president. that is exactly what is happening. they told us and the american people themselves on twitter two years before it happened. >> sandra: here is the whistleblower in his own words. he responded to the revelation of those tweets from a couple of years ago. the attorney for the whistleblower mark zaid writes those tweets were reflected repeating the sentiments of millions of people. i was referring to a completely lawful process of what president trump would likely face stepping over the line and whatever would happen would come about as a result of lawyers. the coup comment referred to those working inside the administration who were already a week into office standing up to him to enforced recognized rule of law. jon, you first, josh, last comments. >> a great distraction. the reality is whatever this attorney tweeted doesn't have anything to do with the facts that we've seen in the case so far. the president's own transcripts. comments the president has made on television calling for not

only ukraine but china to investigate the bidens. all of the information is already out there. so trash the whistleblower if you will. i don't know -- >> sandra: i don't know that all the information is out there. >> we know the motivation of the whistleblower when we don't know who he is. >> this isn't about trashing the whistleblower. day one when the allegations about ukraine were made to the american people had we known there was a two-year plan to try to undermine this administration and the whistleblower himself was working with adam schiff and staff in order to create the conditions for an impeachment inquery do you think we we have one? no, not at all. like eight weeks down the road here we are and the information is coming out. >> sandra: meanwhile i want to go to you first on this, josh. senator rand paul from kentucky is now working to block this resolution to reaffirm the whistleblower's protections. he is accusing democrats of selective outrage. what do you think of this move by the senator? >> this isn't about

whistleblowers it's about a whistleblowers. democrats weren't a fan of whistleblowers. w*is blowing in this context is a meaningless resolution to provide an official overview for what is an entirely political motive by this particular whistleblower. rand paul is not having it and i'm glad he is not. >> sandra: senator ron johnson joined us earlier on this and said this. >> is it reasonable for an anonymous informant to remain anonymous when you lodge these kinds of charges against the president of the united states that will blow up into an impeachment inquiry? not a reasonable expectation of a whistleblower. they ought to realize that before they level the charges. >> what they are really trying to do here is not only distract from the current situation but they are also trying to intimidate anyone else from coming forward. anyone else who may have concerns about what is going on in this administration.

they are sending a clear message to these people if you come forward and say anything negative against this president you are going to have hell to pay. i think this is really unfortunate for senator paul who used to be a champion of whistleblowers who is now trying to expose the name of this person who i think acted on, you know, in good faith on behalf of their country. and, you know -- >> sandra: to be clear he does say he believes -- he says rand paul says he believes that whistleblowers do play a part in keeping government accountable but in his words what we have seen over the last few years we have a system that we should continue to refine. that is why he is doing -- we're out of time. two words, go. >> the resolution he wanted to pass was all about protecting edward snowden. didn't go through the proper channels for whistleblowers. >> i don't agree with him on edward snowden but on the political process this whistleblower has undertaken to bring impeachment inquire aoefs

-- inquiries to this president which is complete nonsense. >> bill: mike pence is in the room. we'll allow you to drop in. he made a few comments a second ago there filing the paperwork for the first in the nation primary which is about three months away, right? early november. so it's december, january, february. new hampshire goes second after the iowa caucuses that will take place on the first weekend in february. corey lewandowski is well as well as mark short from the white house. so there is the vice president about to file the paperwork in new hampshire. >> sandra: i was listening to see if we could hear at all. let us know if we can hear the vice president at all. there he is. arrived in concord, new hampshire. he stopped first at the gift shop to buy a few things for

the family. >> bill: if we get within ear shot we'll bring it to you. november 7th. here we go. if you want to look at an indication this campaign is already underway, here it is for you. the president's rally last night. been watching the fallout from the elections on tuesday. be it in pennsylvania or kentucky or down in mississippi. there is a lot to chew on at the moment for both sides 12 months away from the national election. you can pick your points in pennsylvania or in kentucky. make an argument for democrats on the rise, make an argument for the strength of the trump administration. here we go now. >> sandra: quite a crowd. >> bill: straight ahead in the campaign 2020. >> sandra: a lot of excitement. >> bill: it's in your hands as we like to say. >> sandra: democracy 2020. we'll hear from him in

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>> sandra: back to new hampshire where the vice president mike pence is now speaking standing in for the president to get the trump/pence ticket on the ballot in new hampshire. let's listen for a minute. >> has american standing tall. made america great again began here in new hampshire. i couldn't be more honored. on behalf of the president of the united states to add his name to the ballot. we look forward to being through the granite state again

and again as we carry the message forward. the president wanted me to convey to you his regards and to say to all of our supporters across new hampshire we're grateful for your support today. we have made america great again. and to keep america great we are going to reelect president donald trump for four more years. [applause] >> sandra: he will now file the paperwork, sign it and he will pay the fee. i believe $1,000. over his left shoulder right side of your screen opposite now corey lewandowski, a reporter a short time ago fired off a question to corey about his potential senate run. he responded i'll let you know by the end of the year if i run, i win. said corey lewandowski. >> bill: the importance of new hampshire to the president's team cannot be understated. he was a second place finisher in iowa in 2015/2016 and then

went to new hampshire and won the state. that was really when his campaign started to get a lot of traction and move forward to where it is today, sandra. in the white house. >> sandra: the vice president is now officially signing that. the president is not required to be there in person. he is standing in for donald trump and that ticket will now be officially on the ballot. >> bill: four more years in the background. the chants for 30 minutes. democracy in action in concord, new hampshire. cool to watch. very cool. there it is. finished that up. 24 minutes past. let's go to last night in monroe, louisiana. >> >> president trump: i came to get you for early voting for eddie. under republican leadership economy the booming, wages rising, confidence is soaring and america is stronger than ever before.

>> bill: that from louisiana trying to drum up support for the republican running for governor in a runoff election next week. mike johnson, louisiana republican congressman with me now. thank you for your time. how does it look in louisiana? >> bill, it looks great. there is excitement in new hampshire but it is electric in louisiana. we had about 20,000 people last night in a venue that only seated 10,000. thousands of people out in the parking lots. he will be here again next week. we expect 40,000 to 50,000 then. the only problem we have in louisiana, we can't find arenas large enough to fill all the trump supporters. the energy here is -- >> bill: here is the louisiana governor john bel edwards, a democrat. listen to the end of this comment here. >> we know the president's rally is about politics.

the party is forced to call in the president to prop him up. the president will do what his party asks of him. the truth is the president -- we have had a good working relationship. >> bill: different parties but a good working relationship. the appeal he is trying to drive home among voters especially those in the middle. >> that is an incumbent who is nervous about election day november 16 and early voting this week. he knows his days are numbered. the only liberal democrat in the south and booted out after the first term and he knows it. acts of desperation. the president is wildly popular here. trump country and he is supporting our pro-gun and pro-life candidate. the rafters of the place were blown off. i told the president if we could get him in tiger stadium at lsu you would fill it up. >> bill: maybe at some point you get your shot there in

baton rouge. two trips in a week. >> it says the president is fully committed to electing conservatives from coast to coast, north to south. he knows how important his voice is here. ifm owe grateful the people of this state are grateful he has allowed the use of his time to be involved. the places he is visiting we haven't had a presidential visit since the 80s in some locations. monroe, louisiana hadn't had a presidential visit since ronald reagan in 1983. it speaks to the people and they're behind him 100%. >> bill: in washington you have the ongoing back and forth. you know it will go public in six days. here is part of the transcript from bill taylor now. he will testify first next wednesday. he said that was my clear understanding referring to the quid pro quo. security assistance money would not come until the president committed to pursue the investigation. how damning do you believe that testimony could be next week?

>> it is not. part of the problem is we have issues with the procedure and the process here as well as the substance. we've been jumping up and down to try to draw the american people's attention that adam schiff is doing it in secret. some will come out in public next week. a long time coming. i serve on the house judiciary committee ranking member on the constitution subcommittee in house judiciary, the committee. i haven't been allowed access to second raet hearings or transcript at this point. we'll dig into it. what ambassador sondland said in the transcript. read it for yourself. he asked the president directly what do you want from ukraine? i have the quote here. he said i want nothing, i want no quid pro quo. i want zelensky to do the right thing. it speaks volumes. as the president said on stage in louisiana last night the transcript is the evidence. everybody can see it for themselves. >> bill: i don't know if you caught this comment from adam schiff yesterday. he said most of the -- the most

important facts are largely not contested. that's a quote and clearly he is going to the biden angle here. your response on that. >> you can't believe anything adam schiff says he has proven it himself. he has done the hearings in secret and selectively leaked things. he read a pardee of the president's call. the american people are frustrated. out here in louisiana back home in the district they want this thing to be over. they see it as a game. they know the democrats, pelosi, schiff the rest of them have a pre-determined political outcome. they decided this in january of 2017 after the president took the oath of office. they changed the narrative a number of times. the latest vehicle they try to get rid of donald trump. guess what? it's not going to work. >> bill: i have to run. thank you for your time, mike johnson live in louisiana. back in his home state.

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the local sheriff's office has confirmed now both persons of interest in this case are in fact behind bars. they are in custody. 33-year-old adam curtis williams of utah has been arrested. williams was taken into custody late yesterday in the mexican state deep in the country's interior. he was extradited back to texas where he is being held now on $1 million bond. his girlfriend, amanda is also in custody and still remains in mexico. cameras caught williams driving the murdered couples truck with rv in tow across the border on october 21. days after james and michelle butler were reported missing. police say amanda was also with him in that stolen vehicle which belonged to 48-year-old james butler and his wife, 46-year-old michelle. the couple was from new hampshire. last seen alive in mid october

camping on the beach near corpus christi. family got worried after their social media posts and texts abruptly stopped. two weeks later a reserve police officer discovered their bodies buried in a shallow grave on the beach. authorities have only said they are treating this as a homicide. though adam williams and amanda novare haven't been charged with murder. we're told that both could face additional charges but they are very active in the investigation and it's still ongoing at this point. a lot more we don't know. two people in custody at this point. >> sandra: you'll stay on for us. >> bill: hillary clinton warning candidates for 2020 against far-left policies like medicare for all suggesting a wealth tax is impractical. i just don't understand how that would work and i don't see other examples anywhere else in the world where it has actually worked over a long period of

time. former congressman john delaney running for the democratic nomination for president. thank you for your time live in washington, d.c. what do you think of hillary clinton's warning to fellow democrats? >> nice to be with you, bill. i think hillary is right. i was saying this back in april and june. if you probably remember, bill, i went to the california state convention and i pointed out that medicare for all is not the right way forward. i was actually booed. it turned out to be the right answer to what we need to do with our healthcare. medicare for all is, in fact, an insane approach to fixing our healthcare system, which is broken. we have tens of millions of people in the country without healthcare or who are underinsured. what i propose is we simply solve that problem by creating a federal healthcare plan that covers them. but what we shouldn't be doing is throwing out the entire u.s. healthcare system literally. medicare for all is throwing out 90% of the healthcare

system to fix 10%. it's a crazy idea. >> bill: i remember you making the case over the summer in the first debate. you kind of stuck out from the rest of the crowd on one particular night. let me go to two things and i'll phrase the question for you. clinton says i don't believe we should be in the midst of a big disruption trying to get the 100% coverage and face tough issues about competitiveness and other kinds of innovation in healthcare. however, sir, you look at the latest poll elizabeth warren is selling the idea. bernie sanders is selling the idea as well. joe biden 23, warren 23, sanders down the list there at 20%. that is on the national primary front. then we had to wait for it to get it on screen. yesterday quinnipiac showed it as a clear four-way race in iowa three months away before the caucus. the point being you can talk

about whatever proposals you want and clearly the center left candidate like yourself can disagree with that. but it's not forcing warren to lose traction it would not appear. does that concern you? >> well, it does concern me but i also know the horse race stuff that the media and i don't mean that disrespectfully, the media wants to make a horse race between warren and other people. that's not what you are hearing on the ground in iowa and new hampshire. the good folks of iowa will kind of sort through all this stuff and medicare for all i think will be in a very different place then than it is now. people are starting to get behind some of these ideas and realizing that senator warren and senator sanders are actually not telling them the truth. medicare is the most successful -- one of the most successful programs in this country. it is not a single payer healthcare system. if you are a medicare

beneficiary you have choices, you can use supplemental plans and medicare advantage. you have all kinds of choices. they are proposing to create a national healthcare system where no one has choices. so they are not even being honest in the title of their bill because medicare for all doesn't resemble medicare. >> bill: you went a step further and thought it was unconstitutional. >> actually think the wealth tax is unconstitutional pivoting to the other thing that secretary clinton referenced. look. i think wealthy americans should pay more tax. i have proposed to raise the capital gains rate and do other things. if you look at the revenues we need to not only get our debt under control but to invest in infrastructure and education and basic research, we will need more revenues. wealthy americans i believe have to pay more. in fact, in many ways they're paying less than hard working americans on taxes. but that doesn't mean you have a wealth tax. >> bill: you might be in the same camp. ifm owe almost out of time. the impeachment probe will come

right to center stage next week. is this helping the cause for democrats? >> i can say bill when you are out campaigning in iowa and new hampshire. i'm going to south carolina tomorrow. voters are not really that focused on this. i think they understand this is all unfolding. they are following it at a very high level but what voters want us to do is talk about lowering drug prices, building infrastructure, improve public education. they want us to focus on things that improve their lives. it is very hard for them to even follow all this impeachment stuff. every two hours there is a new story and i think most americans are just like we'll focus on that when it gets close to the vote. but right now i want to hear from you what are you going to do if you are the next president of the united states to improve our lives? that's what i'm running on. >> bill: you aren't the only person who made the case. you are polling at 0%. see how much longer you can survive. come back soon. thank you for your time.

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or go online to enroll, and take advantage of our choice of plans, like aarp medicare advantage. [sfx: mnemonic] >> sandra: three gold star families linked information life after their loved ones were killed serving our country. they share their journey in a new book "the knock at the

door." ryan lost her brother. heather kelly lost her husband. thanks to you three for being here this morning and telling your stories. you've really managed to come together and turn your grief into inspiration for others and how you can better yourself after such a difficult time. starting with you first, what was that like when you received that knock at the door? >> it was devastating of course. finding out that your brother, your best friend had been taken in service of his country. it was a tragic time for my family but we really resolved after his death to make sure that we found purpose with his death and made sure we continued his service. >> sandra: amy. >> my knock at the door i was actually at work that day. so completely caught offguard at the time. brendan was due back just days within the incident. and it changed your life, you

know. you are dealing with your life looks one way at this time and then within a matter of an instant it changed immediately forever. >> sandra: heather. >> i woke up in the middle of the night to marines at my door to give me that worst news and in that moment your future crumbles. hard to imagine there will be something out of that moment when they notify you your spouse is gone. >> how did you come together, pick up the pieces and find each other? how did that happen? >> amy and i knew each other. we had known each other and heather found us through a nonprofit foundation we started after travis was killed. today the three of us all work there together and i think a lot of what we talk about in the book is that's where we found our purpose and our meaning of making sure that we gave back in honor of them.

and we found the greatest way to channel your grief is to be in service to others. >> sandra: we're looking at pictures of you with your loved ones on the screen and this wasn't just you, this was your family's grieving the loss of these great men and women who served our country. and there are so many others that go through this like you. what is interesting about this book that you have all come together on, the knock at the door. you don't just apply it to military families who suffer loss and grieve the loss of loved ones. those who might suffer the loss of a job, or a child, or any major tragedy suffered in your life. you write about how you come together and you inspire others with that message. what is it? >> we in the book talk about that everyone is going to have a struggle. it might not be the knock at the door the tha* the three of us received. there will always be something to turn your life upside down. how do you take that struggle and handle it well and get to the other side? >> sandra: how did you do it? >> it's about coming together,

surrounding yourself by individuals that want to as ryan said remember and honor those we've lost but also want to find a way to carry it with you. but move forward and really just for me it was all about -- i talk about in the book gratitude. being grateful. changes your percent spective when you go through a significant loss. >> sandra: why did you feel compelled to write the book? >> for us we collectively came together and we are around so many other gold star families and a lot of them ask us about they're in different places in a grief journey. more than that it was how do you talk to people about that knock on the door? we had this literal knock but everybody in one way if you live long enough you'll receive some sort of knock. something that changes your life. what we found it is all about not just the knock but more about how you respond to it. >> sandra: it's a beautiful message of wisdom and strength. ryan, amy, heather. we appreciate you coming on and

telling your story this morning. thanks to you and your families and those who served as well. veterans day on monday. we're back in a moment. the game doesn't end after that insane buzzer beater.

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jackie heinrich is live in new york. >> sandra: being on the real housewives of new jersey and to the f.b.i. most wanted list. he wants to stand trial. investigators say he scammed super rich customers at his new jersey car dealership getting them to sign off on loans priced higher than some houses. he didn't have the car title in some and others never handed over the car leaving the buyers empty-handed but responsible for payments. a grand jury indicted him for swindling money from a bank. there were 75 more victims. after he disappeared the f.b.i. put a $20,000 reward for information leading to his arrest. we spoke to him by phone. >> what more do i have to do? i'm basically practically begging you. i'm a fugitive saying arrest me. all you have to do is bring my wife and kids home. >> his wife and kids could come back on their own.

for a $60,000 fine for overstaying visa. it's a tall order. >> this is a situation wholly created by the man. you have a situation where if you give in to demands of this fugitive, are you somehow giving incentive to future defendants to abscond and leave the country. >> they wouldn't give us comment. his alleged victims say they are disgusted he is trying. >> bill: keep us posted. more in a moment after this. call newday usa. one call can save you $2000 a year. with the newday va streamline refi there's no income verification, no appraisal and no out of pocket costs. and my team can close your loan in as little as 30 days. one call can save you $2000 every year.

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>> sandra: okay, that was a show. that's it, were out of time. see you tomorrow. "outnumbered" starts right now. >> melissa: fox news alert, former national security advisor john bolton skipping a closed-door deposition today. and the democrats growing impeachment probe. his attorney said bolton would not show unless democrats issued a subpoena, but i was intelligence official telling fox news bolton's lawyer now says they will take democrats to court over the subpoena. this, as we are learning one of the whistleblower attorneys treated all the way back in january of 2016 that a "kook" had started and that president trump will ultimately be impeached. the president a